Jan 2, 2010. Hello Everyone, It&39;s my first time posting here so please bare with me. Joined Jun 8, 2016. Some diabetics are fine at 10, but some need lower than 8 to really get a good handle on their blood sugar. In 1994, my Gwyn was diagnosed with IBD and put on steroids. Because they find eating to be quite social and they play musical bowls while they eat, I needed to find a food that is low in both carbs and phosphorus. Please remember that while we do actively monitor the contents of posted messages, we are not responsible for any messages posted. Monica & Josie. - Uncontrolled diabetes and thus at risk for diabetic ketoacidosis and hepatic. 2,415 likes 3 talking about this. He was OTJ until this Thanksgiving when he found some honey ham scraps and BOOM, he spiked to 300. It just happened a few minutes ago. 4 years later. Also depending on the fat content, since milk is from an animal and the fat is. A canned food only diet helps. We bought a new one and had to go to the vet again to replace it. He will be dropped off tomorrow morning for his glucose curve testing and then I will learn to give his insulin shots. Treats are whatever Bo likes. we have to give him fliuds as well which i have to start today. There is nothing special about the food that would affect the non-diabetic cat. However, I found out when she was only weeks old that she contracted FIV from her mother. Weight gain is ok when first diagnosed, a lot of times that weight is muscle that was atrophied from lack of insulin. The manufacturer describes Lantus as having a "flat" curve. Our last Freestyle Libre sensor stopped working after 5 days, completely dead. I just found out tonight that my baby, Flint (17 years old) who is overall very healthy has diabetes (I noticed he was drinking a lot more water and had lost weight). 2,415 likes 3 talking about this. This is a support group of cat-loving amateurs; we&x27;re not experts, but among us we&x27;ve accumulated much experience and information about feline diabetes. Please remember that while we do actively monitor the contents of posted messages, we are not responsible for any messages posted. Dec 28, 2009 Sep 6, 2012. Links to food charts and discussions Cat Food - Nutritional Composition, data compiled by Dr. The suspension can be given using the drop dispenser of the bottle for cats of any bodyweight. 3 (Idexx range 4. Joined Jun 8, 2016. Joined Oct 6, 2010. Richard Nelson, the Feline Diabetes Message Board created by Dr. Give insulin dose. This will keep all pertaining to your cat together everyday. The above numbers are the old ranges. Follow the group rules to respect others and avoid conflicts. I know it wasn't a fur shot because I felt. From left to right, you enter. There will be the cost of the blood draw too. Health Links FAQs about Feline Diabetes. This may leave the cat in higher numbers for a fair number of hours each day. Either of those situations may cause him to go too low; this can be fatal. human meter 0. It's the best way to keep your kitty safe. 25 to. Reactions MonaLyssa33 and MikeyInTheFlowerPot. They love it and it doesn't give them any GI issues. Yong is correct - the folic acid b12 in Zobaline is the potent method of getting the best absorption of B12 into the kitteh body. Hi - My cat was diagnosed with Diabetes over 3 months ago. He was diagnosed diabetic on September 9. Nov 14, 2015. They are color-coded to clue you in as to meaning. Jan 2, 2010. These pages are a completely non-commercial labor of love. Many people on the FDMB view this recommendation as overly conservative for single-user vials, and have found that Humulin is often good for somewhat longer. Sep 24, 2014. Check out this list on the catinfo website to see which are low carb (under 10) and low phosphorus, ideally at or under 200. - Test for ketones, glucose is too high. There are on average 180 caloriescan of low carb wet food. thank you so much for this chart. There are reports of inaccuracies in both high and low ranges from human users. The only way to know what the insulin is doing to the blood glucose level is to test BG regularly at home. These pages are a completely non-commercial labor of love. Profiles Please create a profile about yourself and your cat, including any information relevant to your treatment of feline diabetes. Dec 28, 2009 thank you so much for this chart. Kidneys great (BUN, creat, SDMA), liver great, CBC great, gluclose was a little high at 10. The insulin was still in syringe but I dont think it got in me. Similarly, please select a name with at least 3 characters in it. Like the human body, the cells in a cats body need sugar in the form of glucose for energy. The most basic guideline is that you skip the dose. Apr 15, 2020 a decently regulated diabetic cat can miss a dose of insulin now and again if necessary. Basically, they look like they are walking flat footed. Home Forums > Main - Feline Health & FAQs > Feline Health - (Welcome & Main Forum) > Learn more about supporting the FDMB - click here. 6 mmolL), if for most of the cycle between shots. If nadirs are between 90 (5 mmolL) and 149 mgdl (8. Jan 19, 2019. What you need to calculate carb is the "as fed" values and those have to be. The protocol we follow, Tight Regulation (TR) has helped hundreds of diabetic cats to much better health, and many into a diet-controlled remission where. However, her BG levels are pretty high right now. We very abruptly needed to move his surgery up to November 20 to remove a small mass on his abdomen (suspected mammary tumor, turned out to be a cyst), so for the week and a half until that point, we gave him more dry food. That is also very important especially with faster acting insulins such as Vetsulin. The total carbohydrate content is predominately starch. 0 - 9. Joined Oct 6, 2020. For the US and Canada. Sometimes they would start out very small and suddenly- like overnight- get huge and infected and would have to get antibiotics. Vetsulin, (aka Canisulin) was developed for canines (aka dogs). Alternatively and for cats with a bodyweight of at least 2 kg, the Metacam measuring syringe (provided in the package) can be used. 5 Ukg q 12 hours, with a range of 0. Once you have a chance to read the sticky notes at the top of the board, you&39;ll see the we generally change doses in 0. We bought a new one and had to go to the vet again to replace it. You are joining a community with an expansive knowledge base regarding feline diabetes (FD) and numerous members dedicated to helping each other. We will explain. It&39;s very irregular, it stops for a few hours, then comes back to measuring. She has been depressed since becoming ill and continues to be depressed. Welcome to you and your little one. Feline Diabetes Message Board - FDMB. I posted questions previously regarding my cat's constant meowing during night even after increasing his feedings and leavings a frozen dish of feeding out so he would have one during the night to eat. Melanie and Smokey, Nov 24, 2014 7. If I had a cat that needed low phosphorus I would feed the Weruva food. Hi, everyone. BUY ON AMAZON. The general guidelines for making dose changes are If nadirs are more than 150 mgdl (8. com &174; is a complete pet health guide to treatment of diabetes mellitus in cats. The Phosphorus is approximately 0. Dec 6, 2016. To be administered orally either mixed with food or directly into the mouth. 6 mmolL) - Any time - The renal threshold (depending on data source and cat's renal function) where glucose spills into the urine. The human instructions suggest that normal testing routine should be continued by humans despite use of the Libre sensor. Rebecca Price, the testimonial by Gia & Quirk, and a large dose of genetic good luck, Binky became a diet-controlled diabetic within weeks of starting insulin therapy. This, of course, happens after an accidental skipped dose and a furshot - all just this. Dec 18, 2012. The general guidelines for making dose changes are If nadirs are more than 150 mgdl (8. Impaired fasting BG (pancreas doesn't produce enough of a basal trickle of insulin between meals to keep BG levels in a good range - usually manifests as a rise in BG after a longer time fasting). 2,415 likes 3 talking about this. I saw a big improvement I&39;d say 3 months, could be sooner. Wink was eating 10-11 ounces of canned food a day. I just found out tonight that my baby, Flint (17 years old) who is overall very healthy has diabetes (I noticed he was drinking a lot more water and had lost weight). Diabetes mellitus is a condition in which the body cannot properly produce or respond to the hormone insulin. He also had severe dandruff, patches the size of nickels and dimes. They will show you how to order inhalers from Canada (much more inexpensive). alex will often eat if i sprinkle a little cheese (the stinkier, the better) on her food. Home Forums > Main - Feline Health & FAQs > Feline Health - (Welcome & Main Forum) >. So Vetsulin hits fast and then wears off so the cat is not covered for the entire 24 hours. Red & Rover (GA) Joined May 18, 2016. These pages are a completely non-commercial labor of love. This will keep all pertaining to your cat together everyday. There are many ways to keep. This, of course, happens after an accidental skipped dose and a furshot - all just this. Oct 14, 2021. 180 - 280 mgdL (10 - 15. I gotta admit, I was shocked that he was so sure her BG at home of 10 (180) is not considered diabetic. The above numbers are the old ranges. Well - that's for dogs. > 280 mgdL (15. Adding extra sugar to a diabetic cats system is something we try to avoid, so that we don't raise the BG (blood glucose) levels. Most dry foods are 30-50 carbohydrates. My kitty Nestle has a bad case of diabetic neuropathy and lately it seems It&39;s been getting even worse. Thanks to dietary advice from Dr. Nov 14, 2015. A digital kitchen scale is really helpful for this - ex 3 oz of FF 3 oz of Friskies would average the 2 levels together. Then he started to eat and need less food, around 6-7 ounces of food a day. Slow and steady works here. Each starting with a small dose and increasing slowly. It can interfere with the use of the Private Message (PM) function. Each starting with a small dose and increasing slowly. Feline Diabetes Message Board - FDMB. Dec 28, 2009. Home Forums > Main - Feline Health & FAQs > Feline Health - (Welcome & Main Forum) >. He has been throwing up as well a couple of days ago (not anymore), eating dry food mostly (he is not too keen on wet food, he hasn&39;t been since we started giving him insulin). However, I found out when she was only weeks old that she contracted FIV from her mother. There is a wide depth and breath of knowledge in dealing with the day to day management of feline diabetes here on the message board. Balou was obviously obese, and his brother is 17 lbs and not obese, just also a BIG BOY too. If your cat has just been diagnosed, you probably have lots of questions. constipation certainly, hydration is important. I ordered the Prozinc and syringes from Chewy and with free shipping and a coupon code my total was 101. BUY ON AMAZON. Dec 28, 2009 An important note on when to feed your cat Because CaninsulinVetsulin has an early onset, you want to have fed your cat 20 30 minutes before you give a shot. Feline Diabetes Message Board - FDMB. If nadirs are between 90 (5 mmolL) and 149 mgdl (8. that&x27;s probably not what it&x27;s called, but they can often stop needing insulin by a change in diet. Joined Oct 6, 2020. Elsey's chicken kibble as treats. Join the group to learn more about the condition, share tips and advice, and access the FDMB discussion forum and community. Unfortunately, the Del Monte Pet Food Company, the owner of. Solving the underlying condition will usually solve the thyroid issue as well. Actually its much safer for cats. This equates to 1 U q. It need not be a prescription food, either. Dec 28, 2009. Dec 6, 2016. 88100) Sep 19, 2018. Still feeding Friskies pates, Fancy Feast pates and some Tiki cat canned as treats. FDMB - the Feline Diabetes Message Board. If your cat has just been diagnosed with diabetes, you probably have lots of questions. Dec 10, 2011 Also - as you may have already learned, dry food is very, very bad for a diabetic cat. All our dosing protocols are based on the human meters, since when this message board started back in the 1990&39;s, pet specific meters did not exist. Prescription food isn&39;t necessary for the urinary issues. ) feed as usual, test in a. Cost will vary, depending on vet and lab done. There are definitely other pain med options-- I would absolutely talk to your vet about that, and about the hiding behavior. For the US and Canada. EZComplete is both. You could get a much bigger bg drop because its such a harsh insulin. Jul 14, 2020. During the dental, they should monitor glucose levels, and body temperature (they can chill easily). I brought mine into his office to check for accuracy and. The panel recommends a starting dose of 0. 75 units of Lantus and Benji had switched food plates with Bam Bam in the few seconds that I was filling up the needle. He also had severe dandruff, patches the size of nickels and dimes. 2 mmolL), maintain the same dose. So far its been very helpful with all the articles. My Copper was diagnosed in November. Attaching files issues See this message. Dec 2, 2014 Exercise can help overcome some of this, because there&39;s only so much calorie reduction that is ok for a diabetic cat. 5 years of dealing daily with feline diabetes (and over two years of managing a French support group),. Our users refer to these profiles when reading your questionshaving all. FDMB - the Feline Diabetes Message Board. I agree with Bron, without knowing what type of insulin you are giving and what dose, along with seeing any BG history, best to contact your vet and possibly take your cat in to be closely monitored. Home Forums > Main - Feline Health & FAQs >. That is also very important especially with faster acting insulins such as Vetsulin. Alternatively and for cats with a bodyweight of at least 2 kg, the Metacam measuring syringe (provided in the package) can be used. " Vets that are supportive of the 3 basics in treating diabetes, low carb food, a good long lasting insulin and home testing are gems to cherish. There&39;s no added sucrose, corn syrup, glucose or fructose. Help My cat hates getting insulin injections. And if you&39;re concerned about her weight, I would be very surprised if she didn&39;t get down to a healthy weight on her own with a low carb diet and restricted feedings. Thanks to dietary advice from Dr. But apart from that it is nutritional complete. People from here who have &39;met up&39; with them have come back calling them &39;Angels&39;. static s. The Vitacost brand is a capsule so just open it and pour the powder on the wet food. They had always free fed before the diagnosis. I called the vet in a panic, and the tech told me it would be fine, that it was just as if I had given her a reduced dose. They work fine. So about a half hour after giving Misty her insulin (ProZinc) I realized that I forgot to roll it in my hands to mix it. 19 Sep 2, 2008. The very best online place to get info and advice for diabetic kitties is the Feline Diabetes Message Board. Burgess, Feb 9, 2022. org - 2018 List of available meters - includes MSRP for meters and test strips. The side of a friskies can says 1 ozlbday. Jul 23, 2014. The sore behind the ear that scared me so much yesterday is not wet. I gave 2. Fancy Feast Gourmet Cat Food Classic Chicken Feast 0. However, that's not a super huge deal. Generally, if a cat on insulin is still drinking a lot of water, and they are on an all low carb canned food diet, (low carb canned foods are what diabetic cats should be eating), then it is very likely that the cat is still having high blood glucose numbers for whatever reason. Cats are not small dogs and their insulin needs are very different than dogs. 5u, to. Cerenia is very bitter and can cause terrible foaming from the mouth if they taste it. Each column stores different data for the day. and so many of us try as best we can to avoid carrageenan (an emulsifier) and starch, starch and starch means carbs. Your prozinc is fine as long as there are no clumps or floaties in it. houston personals, fullporne
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75 units of Lantus and Benji had switched food plates with Bam Bam in the few seconds that I was filling up the needle. There are reports of inaccuracies in both high and low ranges from human users. alex will often eat if i sprinkle a little cheese (the stinkier, the better) on her food. Jun 7, 2011. Cost will vary, depending on vet and lab done. That&39;ll include all the basic cbc and chemistry panel and also throw in the T4 test which will be an indicator of thyroid function. The total carbohydrate content is predominately starch. Cats have very few of the receptors that metoclopramide works on. Dec 3, 2016. Some Insulin brands we stopped after 2-3 weeks, as her numbers remained. Dec 28, 2009 An unregulated diabetic can lose weight, have coarser fur and be dandruffy and can eat like there is no tomorrow. I've read that some cats are sensitive to the carbs but haven't noticed that with mine and figure one or two pieces a day isn't going to hurt them. Cats should be started on twice-daily injections of Vetsulin at 12-hour intervals. Friday PMPS at 715pm. Found this message board by recommendation and can really use some advice. The different insulins, how they work on cats and how. I know in the 2 the insulin is beginning to take effect, however, at 10, before I go to sleep his BG lowers quite a bit considering, until his next dose at 600AM. comFDMB - join the FDMB discussion forum & community there. He had surgery, a couple of weeks ago, to have a cyst removed which turned out to be benign, with no fear that it would have turned to cancer. If she starts to be consistently over 200, you will need to increase insulin (don&39;t reduce food). However, if you get the pens, that much insulin will last you at least 6 months, but more likely a. Need some answers re Mirtazaine side effects. 3) get the meter ready with a new strip. Maybe Kitty has been on the porch too much. They had always free fed before the diagnosis. Anyone else hear this too Save Share. - Test for ketones, glucose is too high. Quick Links. There is. This can make the cat feel quite unwell and may lead to being aggressive behaviour as a protective measure. we have to give him fliuds as well which i have to start today. JeffJ said . Jun 2, 2015 May 10, 2013. Home Forums > Insulin Support Groups (ISG. Mar 1, 2013. 3 mmolL), increase the dose by 0. Jan 9, 2014 So far its been very helpful with all the articles. Sep 4, 2014. This, of course, happens after an accidental skipped dose and a furshot - all just this. The Vitacost brand is a capsule so just open it and pour the powder on the wet food. Fair control 450 - 500. 12 hours in an average cat. The Phosphorus is approximately 0. Often, cats do best when they are weaned of the insulin with gradual dose reductions--when Bandit went into remission, he went from 1 unit, down to. That&39;ll include all the basic cbc and chemistry panel and also throw in the T4 test which will be an indicator of thyroid function. 8 - 9Lives, Meaty Pate, With Real Chicken Lamb & Rice. In 2005, Gwyn was diagnosed with diabetes. Halo Liv-A-Littles. 056 g Phosphorus in the 40 g serving. Dietary carbohydrate may contribute to hyperglycemia and glucose toxicity in cats. My civie is on both prednisolone and Leukeran (chlorambucil) and has been over a year. If she starts to be consistently over 200, you will need to increase insulin (don&39;t reduce food). Moonie also has sticky urine sometimes still, and yes It can happen when numbers are high. " Vets that are supportive of the 3 basics in treating diabetes, low carb food, a good long lasting insulin and home testing are gems to cherish. Dec 29, 2009. I have an 11 year old diabetic boy, and a 14 year old girl who was recently diagnosed with stage 2 CKD. Feline Diabetes Message Board - FDMB. In a study, published in 1999, of ten cats with transient diabetes, seven cats did not experience a recurrence of their diabetes. 2 to 0. It should be put in something and swallowed, not chewed. Has no taste, no need to crush it up. Purina DM Savory selects is 51 protein, 39 fat, and 10 carbs, which is borderline ok for a diabetic cat. The book said this happens if it reads over 600. 5 Ukg q 12 hours, with a range of 0. Friday AMPS at 700am. The vet told us to stop one of the doses and she became very lethargic and. Feb 19, 2012. I have an 11 year old diabetic boy, and a 14 year old girl who was recently diagnosed with stage 2 CKD. Jul 14, 2020. These posts (read only) contain links. Caitlin M Well-Known Member. Sticky Recent. Most of the wet foods that have gravy in them are too high in carbs for a diabetic cat. PLEASE NOTE IDEXX changed the reagents used in their fructosamine test in 2019. Understanding the spreadsheetgrid The colored headings at the top are the ranges of glucose values. Sep 11, 2020 3 LTS3 TCS Member. Join the group to learn more about the condition, share tips and advice, and. Similarly, please select a name with at least 3 characters in it. 0K members who share their experiences and get support for feline diabetes. Grab a mid-cycle test each day on AM cycle - between 3 and 5 hours after dose admin time is where nadir is typically expected (although sometimes it may be later). you could also try crushing dry food or treats and then sprinkle those on food. People from here who have &39;met up&39; with them have come back calling them &39;Angels&39;. we have to give him fliuds as well which i have to start today. No harm done. Example regular time is 700am. Dec 5, 2015. He&39;s been at this dose for 14 days. 1 (290) (same drop of blood for both), what I wanted to know, is this a big difference. You dont have to do any calibration to the meter when you open a new bottle of strips. Aug 1, 2015. Diabetes mellitus is a condition in which the body cannot properly produce or respond to the hormone insulin. Topics Posts Last post; Talking TR Introduce yourself and your cat, get help with starting TR, detox and dosing info, and more related to the protocol. 25 Ukg q 12 hours, based on an estimate of the cats lean body weight. 4, Idexx). This is a support group of cat-loving amateurs; we're not experts, but among us we've accumulated much experience and information about feline diabetes. In 2005, Gwyn was diagnosed with diabetes. Give it some time and come back to it and you can use more to put under the adhesive once it has loosened. You also have the option to choose a specific cat food. There is 20 variance given to meters, so those numbers are very close. Normally, we say a cat is in remission when he can maintain a daily blood glucose level in a normal range (50-120 on a human glucometer) for a period of two weeks. Jan 26, 2010 Dec 28, 2009. One capsule a day. Depending on your cat's numbers though, that can make them feel pretty awful to run high for a cycle. Yesterday morning pre-insulin his blood sugar was 27,9 mmolL (European). She has been depressed since becoming ill and continues to be depressed. 1u over. Join the group to learn more about the condition, share tips and advice, and access the FDMB discussion forum and community. we have to give him fliuds as well which i have to start today. The different insulins, how they work on cats and how. On the caninsulin we would get a cycle with high flat numbers (23's414) immediately following a cycle with a nadir of 10 (180). It has some of the lowest carbohydrate content of any food we reviewed (with multiple flavors having literally zero carbs), and is grain free, preservative free, and affordably priced. He was diagnosed diabetic on September 9. . supjav